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   Posted 9/4/2005 9:47 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
agree... that was classic!
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   Posted 9/4/2005 11:53 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Pinny does transfers with 777rock. I'll take Pinny's word over kosar's every time.
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   Posted 9/5/2005 3:50 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Best way to show you are ready for post-up is to get a Neteller account.
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   Posted 9/5/2005 3:11 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
raiders72001 said...
Pinny does transfers with 777rock. I'll take Pinny's word over kosar's every time.
What exactly is 'pinnys word?' Are they backing 777?
 
And i'm not saying that there's anything wrong with 777Rockthehouse, but if a portal takes a 3 week old shop, they need to save the lectures about only taking top notch, established books.
 
Got it, sombrero? 
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   Posted 9/5/2005 3:23 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
kosar said...
raiders72001 said...
Pinny does transfers with 777rock. I'll take Pinny's word over kosar's every time.
What exactly is 'pinnys word?' Are they backing 777?
 
And i'm not saying that there's anything wrong with 777Rockthehouse, but if a portal takes a 3 week old shop, they need to save the lectures about only taking top notch, established books.
 
Got it, sombrero? 
I think if 777rock can do tranfers with CASCADE, CRIS, DELMAR, PINNACE, and GRANDE I would think they are ROCK SOLID.
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   Posted 9/5/2005 4:54 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

How U doing!!!

Ye you right, sorry. about hopefully we make some money off them.

Jets4life.

booooooooom


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   Posted 9/5/2005 8:56 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
is this a good book for small players
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   Posted 9/5/2005 9:02 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
coolguy,

yes it is. they have a very good bonus, 25% with i believe an 8 time rollover, and ill tell you a secret..... they will be announcing a special signup promo for tow posters VERY soon.....
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   Posted 9/5/2005 9:07 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
ok thank you
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   Posted 9/6/2005 4:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Roberto,

I asked you about this family of books ( Chimera ) two weeks ago remember? I wanted to join on of their books because i read good fedbacks on forums and see 724 advertise at majorwager but if a book is not at least C at SBR i do not send it any money. Now i am seeing you advertise one of them, this means for sure that they are financially strong. Maybe John can re-evaluate the rating of it and/or give an opinion?

Thanks

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   Posted 9/6/2005 4:47 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Concorde,
 
I believe SBR has been a bit too tight with their rating of 777..... and I also believe they will adjust it in the short term... afterall they usually adjust to match or come close to TOW ratings tongue
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   Posted 9/6/2005 4:52 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Do they even have a Neteller account because they didnt last week. I'd like to take our time on these new books. Lets see some history and not create it.
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   Posted 9/6/2005 4:54 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Technicalities aside, you're aware they are everything but new. Would you like to share your info on them ?
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   Posted 9/6/2005 5:03 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
So being a month old without a Neteller account is a minor "Technicalities"? They may have all the deep pockets and richer than mansion but what's the hurry? Let them put their time in the post up game like every one else. No free passes. Then, if they earn a strong grade they will have earned it, not had it given to them and it will actually mean some thing. ;)
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   Posted 9/6/2005 5:11 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
OK, then lets say that in a month of two SBR will rate them as TOW ( 7 ).....fair enough.
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   Posted 9/6/2005 9:40 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
WHAT'S AGENDA MEANS?/
PLEASE.shakehead


 

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   Posted 9/7/2005 9:44 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bill Dozer said...
Best way to show you are ready for post-up is to get a Neteller account.
 Bill, why dont you call somebody NEUTRAL like SPIRO and ask him about 777Rock since you have all these doubts about this book.if you cant take his word you cant take nobodys, you just a little to young in this business to find out a good book when you see one, you got some of your books rated  A and B's that I know for a fact made personal loans from another book so they could get BAILED out, you can do your own investingating to find out who those books are, good luck trying and I can prove it too but I will not go PUBLIC.
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   Posted 9/7/2005 10:04 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Rainbow do work for them? I guess thats asking the obvious.

You are not responding and neither is Roberto to points of no Neteller account and the in business for a month points. Books are not given a grade because Spiro says they are OK. Now if Spiro says his money backs them 100% please let me know.

Books are given high marks when they establish a track record. Roberto touted BCN as being great when they were new too. SBR said not so fast and gave them a C-. No book jumps into the post up game as a "great book". 777 will start as an average sportsbook just like Pinnacle did in 1999. Top grades are EARNED, not argued for and certainly not given out for a forum sponsorship.
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   Posted 9/7/2005 10:19 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm sure they are working on NETTELLER, another words if a book has NETTELLER THEY ARE A C+ TO START, why dont you give SPIRO a call you might be surprized what he has to say. oh and by the way what about those A and B books that had to get bailed out.
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   Posted 9/7/2005 10:20 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
RPM said...
coolguy,

yes it is. they have a very good bonus, 25% with i believe an 8 time rollover, and ill tell you a secret..... they will be announcing a special signup promo for tow posters VERY soon.....


Thanks RPM i called in to see about that 25%,and i thought it was a sweet deal with a 8 time rollover.And the guy i talked to gave me a $50 dollor freeplay on top of that for NFL kick off.I just hope i can do as well as last season.And by the way has anyone tried Solid Pay? the guy was telling me that there are no fees to fund or transfer and he'll hook me up with a debit card for payouts.What do you guys know about it?
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   Posted 9/7/2005 10:21 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
welcome duran. glad you got hooked up. as far as solid pay goes, ive never used them personally...
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   Posted 9/7/2005 10:24 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
John,

I understand and respect your cautious approach towards new shops albeit 777rock is just the new brand of a well established offline shop from which respect of many well established top notch bookmakers derives from.

That said we live and report about a very vital industry in which changes take place very rapidly. I hear thru the grapevine mybookie will be up on sbrlines momentarily. No objection to that other than a very recent serious incident that we both contributed to rectify on behalf of a player seriously wronged (and strong armed) by that book.
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   Posted 9/7/2005 10:45 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
John, you think you know everything, now you have me working there, you really are unreal, next time get all your FACTS before you start SPECULATING, you are well respected, but you still have alot to learn about this business.
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   Posted 9/7/2005 6:06 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Rainbow said...
Bill Dozer said...
Best way to show you are ready for post-up is to get a Neteller account.

Bill, why dont you call somebody NEUTRAL like SPIRO and ask him about 777Rock since you have all these doubts about this book.if you cant take his word you cant take nobodys, you just a little to young in this business to find out a good book when you see one, you got some of your books rated A and B's that I know for a fact made personal loans from another book so they could get BAILED out, you can do your own investingating to find out who those books are, good luck trying and I can prove it too but I will not go PUBLIC.


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Rainbow,

You are really not helping your cause here. I'm sure 777 is adequate for your package but that is not relevant.

We have spoke to the right people and I am comfortable with the rating at this time. I also spoke with Scott on more than one occasion and had one of the more enjoyable BM conversations I have had in a while. He took the time to talk numbers with me and I left the conversation looking forward to watching them in action. SBR decided to do an upgrade at that point before realizing that this book, that is now targeting American post-up, does not offer Neteller as an option.

Marketing, reputation, bonuses and general overhead makes booking post-up a whole different game. It is very possible that 777 will excel at this end of the market but it is apparent that they have some things to learn. We want to see how the old Dimebetting staff turns themselves around for the new venture. We want to see if 777 can make better marketing decisions. We want to see how the CS center operates. We all know that credit business CS can be VERY rough and is rarely up to par for a normal business.

If you look at every sharp powerhouse their is a big name CS guy/gal there making sure players are treated fairly and coreectly. Will a Gary, Bridgette or Wally emerge from 777?

Lastly, it is much easier to get a line of credit in this business than to run one of the businesses. Book to Book transfers means the other bookmakers believe the money is good and 777’s certainly looks to be. But, there are a lot of whales with lines of credit. Are they fit to run a sportsbook?
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   Posted 9/7/2005 6:30 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If you look at every sharp powerhouse their is a big name CS guy/gal there making sure players are treated fairly and coreectly. Will a Gary, Bridgette or Wally emerge from 777?
 
or a Scotty Johnson (the best in the world!)
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