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TOW
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Posted 9/12/2005 10:57 AM (GMT -5) |
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BAUS,
I talked to Nigel this morning. He maintains his position that the -275 was a bad line when he hanged it, that your bet was cancelled a few minutes after acceptance and you were informed via email.
He also said that he noticed that it was a bad line cause other books were at -320/-330. I argued that I recall Pinnacle having -275 on Monday morning (you wagered on Sunday) but he has no recollection of that.
He also invoked the bad line rule as posted on their Web site.
In my opinion it was not a bad line. Given that Nigel will not change his mind on this very issue I have downgraded WWTS.
Jessica is a very likeable and cooperative person but unfortunately may not help in your case. |
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D2bets
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Posted 9/12/2005 11:02 AM (GMT -5) |
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He preferred to be downgraded rather than agree that he was wrong in the face of obvious facts and unanimous opinion? That's unbelievable. |
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RPM
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Posted 9/12/2005 11:07 AM (GMT -5) |
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there has to be some reprocusions for not at LEAST trying to work things out. nice move tow!~ |
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merlyn
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Posted 9/12/2005 12:03 PM (GMT -5) |
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Ahhh, so, noting this new development...
https://towforum.com/default.aspx?f=5&m=13856
Perhaps WWTS has other intentions after all. Good move.
a.) It never should have happened
b.) the response should have been - "Yes, we showed a lack of judgement originally, our error and we will honor the bet."
c.) and now that they have been placed under a TRUE microscope (as true as can be found in the unregulated world), they see the light.
Evereyone is entitled to a mistake here or there as long as we make it right. WWTS has made it right. Now, can they maintain this proper form?
It will depend on their perceived gain from making the right move and I am betting they perceive it positively.
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RPM
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Posted 9/12/2005 12:18 PM (GMT -5) |
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merlyn,
well, if it means anything to them, their move to do the right thing here gained my respect and i will now be posting back up with them for foots this year... |
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merlyn
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Posted 9/12/2005 12:19 PM (GMT -5) |
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BAUS
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Posted 9/12/2005 2:53 PM (GMT -5) |
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Just to elaborate on what TOW had to say earlier in this thread:
I made the wager in the evening of Friday September 2nd. It is true that Nigel cancelled it within 10 minutes, and it is true that he also emailed me after he did cancel it.
After I noticed my balance wasn't right, I called in to WWTS where I was transferred to Nigel and he told me he cancelled it because it was a bad line or humar error or something....he told me he emailed me about it. So after I hung up, I checked my email and basically decided to move on.
I don't recall exactly what other books had at that exact moment, but it wasn't very far off from -275. 4-5 days later, CRIS had -300 up, and that was after a little bit of steam had pushed it there, so that is what prompted me to post about this issue. I thought "How could -275 be a bad line when CRIS is hanging -300 4 days later?"
Anyway, I hope this doesn't happen to anyone else because it certainly is frustrating.
Thanks again TOW for the help and hard work, and thanks to Nigel for doing the right thing.
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merlyn
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Posted 9/12/2005 3:57 PM (GMT -5) |
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BAUS, can you say how much the win amount was for? or at least give a range? |
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BAUS
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Posted 9/12/2005 4:03 PM (GMT -5) |
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I don't think it's proper for me to say, but it was a significant sum. A 4 figure win amount.
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